<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: My initial thoughts on Portland bike culture</title>
	<atom:link href="http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/</link>
	<description>The Online Magazine of Austin Cycling Culture</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 00:59:13 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: elliott</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://austinbikeblog.org/?p=794#comment-227</guid>
		<description>Brett,
Thanks for your comments. I totally agree that we are woefully behind as a city in building bike infrastructure. Our bike plan (like our city master plan) is over 20 years old and does little to address biking as transportation. I agree we need more bike paths that actually go places. We are actually going to be getting some paths with our new commuter rail system.

As I mentioned in the article I posted today, providing infrastructure for bikes is dirt cheap compared to cars and transit. With an iota of planning, we can have great facilities with just a little extra cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett,<br />
Thanks for your comments. I totally agree that we are woefully behind as a city in building bike infrastructure. Our bike plan (like our city master plan) is over 20 years old and does little to address biking as transportation. I agree we need more bike paths that actually go places. We are actually going to be getting some paths with our new commuter rail system.</p>
<p>As I mentioned in the article I posted today, providing infrastructure for bikes is dirt cheap compared to cars and transit. With an iota of planning, we can have great facilities with just a little extra cost.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: brett</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://austinbikeblog.org/?p=794#comment-220</guid>
		<description>Yes, there&#039;s a tiny minority of Serious Bikers who resent bike lanes or think them dangerous. They prefer to ride in the middle of a car lane to assert our equal right to the road with cars. Nice idealism, but appropriate only for the 1% or so of fearless riders. If you want to actually get lots of regular people riding, as many European cities have discovered, you need bike-only lanes. It&#039;d be great if they could be physically separated, as in Holland and Denmark and other countries, which consequently get 30-40% or more of the population riding, because they feel safe enough to do so. But it&#039;s expensive, and Portland&#039;s non-separated bikeways have already encouraged far more riders than any other American city per capita. 

Anyway, that&#039;s a topic for another thread. Re: Austin and Portland, I lived in the former for 15 years (and biked around on a visit in June) before moving to Portland. Austin could really learn a lot from Portland, particularly in making bicycling part of regular people&#039;s lives, not just recreational (racing, mountain biking etc) specialists. I noticed a recent video about Austin&#039;s bike culture had a city official talking about racing and long distance riding groups, but nothing at all about just using your bike to ride to work or school or on errands. 

Austin&#039;s hike and bike network is nice for exercise and getting to a few great places, but Portland&#039;s bike planners have figured out where people need to go and provided extensive bikeways and information to make it possible to get there on a bike. As a result, we have thousands of bike commuters and thousands of Portlanders living car-free and thousands more who drive infrequently at most, preferring to rely on bikes or our light rail, streetcar and bus systems. Many, many magazine and newspaper stories have been written about Portland&#039;s bike-friendliness in the past few years.

I was encouraged to see Mellow Johnny&#039;s starting to emphasize biking for the rest of us when I was in Austin. But you&#039;re right about Portland&#039;s Clever Cycles, which is my fave bike shop (I have a Dutch bike) -- its whole reason for being is providing bikes and accessories for regular people who bike primarily for transportation, not just the Lycra crowd who do it mostly for recreation. I drove every day in Austin; I might drive once a week, at most, in Portland. 

You Austinites should check bikeportland.org frequently for ideas, like the bike corrals recently discussed, and maybe hire some of Portland&#039;s bike planners (public and private) to consult with the city about massively improving the bike infrastructure.  But  bikability has to go beyond just spending tax money on bike infrastructure and planning. You also need compact growth laws and investment in public transportation to make the city truly hospitable to a bike centric lifestyle. The airport Max is a perfect example -- I can get to the airport in half an hour or by walking a few blocks, paying $1.75, and riding the Max right to the terminal. No taxi fare, no parking fee.

None of this happened by accident. If you want to have an environmentally sustainable and bike friendly culture like Portland&#039;s, you need to do some political organizing to make it happen. Get political candidates to commit to funding bike infrastructure. Portland is by no means perfect, despite all its awards as America&#039;s best bike city. (You could learn even more from Copenhagen or Amsterdam.) But it really is becoming a bike nirvana, and I&#039;d love to see the same thing happen to Austin, a city I still cherish. Hope you enjoy your Portland visit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there&#8217;s a tiny minority of Serious Bikers who resent bike lanes or think them dangerous. They prefer to ride in the middle of a car lane to assert our equal right to the road with cars. Nice idealism, but appropriate only for the 1% or so of fearless riders. If you want to actually get lots of regular people riding, as many European cities have discovered, you need bike-only lanes. It&#8217;d be great if they could be physically separated, as in Holland and Denmark and other countries, which consequently get 30-40% or more of the population riding, because they feel safe enough to do so. But it&#8217;s expensive, and Portland&#8217;s non-separated bikeways have already encouraged far more riders than any other American city per capita. </p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s a topic for another thread. Re: Austin and Portland, I lived in the former for 15 years (and biked around on a visit in June) before moving to Portland. Austin could really learn a lot from Portland, particularly in making bicycling part of regular people&#8217;s lives, not just recreational (racing, mountain biking etc) specialists. I noticed a recent video about Austin&#8217;s bike culture had a city official talking about racing and long distance riding groups, but nothing at all about just using your bike to ride to work or school or on errands. </p>
<p>Austin&#8217;s hike and bike network is nice for exercise and getting to a few great places, but Portland&#8217;s bike planners have figured out where people need to go and provided extensive bikeways and information to make it possible to get there on a bike. As a result, we have thousands of bike commuters and thousands of Portlanders living car-free and thousands more who drive infrequently at most, preferring to rely on bikes or our light rail, streetcar and bus systems. Many, many magazine and newspaper stories have been written about Portland&#8217;s bike-friendliness in the past few years.</p>
<p>I was encouraged to see Mellow Johnny&#8217;s starting to emphasize biking for the rest of us when I was in Austin. But you&#8217;re right about Portland&#8217;s Clever Cycles, which is my fave bike shop (I have a Dutch bike) &#8212; its whole reason for being is providing bikes and accessories for regular people who bike primarily for transportation, not just the Lycra crowd who do it mostly for recreation. I drove every day in Austin; I might drive once a week, at most, in Portland. </p>
<p>You Austinites should check bikeportland.org frequently for ideas, like the bike corrals recently discussed, and maybe hire some of Portland&#8217;s bike planners (public and private) to consult with the city about massively improving the bike infrastructure.  But  bikability has to go beyond just spending tax money on bike infrastructure and planning. You also need compact growth laws and investment in public transportation to make the city truly hospitable to a bike centric lifestyle. The airport Max is a perfect example &#8212; I can get to the airport in half an hour or by walking a few blocks, paying $1.75, and riding the Max right to the terminal. No taxi fare, no parking fee.</p>
<p>None of this happened by accident. If you want to have an environmentally sustainable and bike friendly culture like Portland&#8217;s, you need to do some political organizing to make it happen. Get political candidates to commit to funding bike infrastructure. Portland is by no means perfect, despite all its awards as America&#8217;s best bike city. (You could learn even more from Copenhagen or Amsterdam.) But it really is becoming a bike nirvana, and I&#8217;d love to see the same thing happen to Austin, a city I still cherish. Hope you enjoy your Portland visit!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: elliott</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://austinbikeblog.org/?p=794#comment-215</guid>
		<description>Hmmm. . . I found it very easy to ride around Portland by bike. I did not find the bike lanes to be hazardous. They made a lot of sense and helped the bike be recognized on the road another vehicle. Of course, I ride in traffic in a city with little bike infrastructure so these facilities are a huge step forward for me.

The site you referenced appears to be someone who is bitter the organization they were a part of has gone a different direction. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but this person&#039;s statements do not help his or her case. I would not base an opinion of Portland&#039;s bikability based on someone who obviously has another agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. . . I found it very easy to ride around Portland by bike. I did not find the bike lanes to be hazardous. They made a lot of sense and helped the bike be recognized on the road another vehicle. Of course, I ride in traffic in a city with little bike infrastructure so these facilities are a huge step forward for me.</p>
<p>The site you referenced appears to be someone who is bitter the organization they were a part of has gone a different direction. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but this person&#8217;s statements do not help his or her case. I would not base an opinion of Portland&#8217;s bikability based on someone who obviously has another agenda.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: BAW</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>BAW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://austinbikeblog.org/?p=794#comment-214</guid>
		<description>For another point of view:
http://www.labreform.org/

&quot;Recent actions of the League&#039;s Bicycle Friendly Communities program are an attack on core principles of the League and on the rights and welfare of cyclists.  BFC has given its highest award to Portland, OR despite (or perhaps because of) its reckless program installing bike lanes in dangerous places.  What makes it worse is that Oregon laws require cyclists to use these hazardous facilities.&quot;

I&#039;ve never been to Portland myself, so I can&#039;t say who is right.  Only that there seems to be a difference of opinion on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For another point of view:<br />
<a href="http://www.labreform.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.labreform.org/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Recent actions of the League&#8217;s Bicycle Friendly Communities program are an attack on core principles of the League and on the rights and welfare of cyclists.  BFC has given its highest award to Portland, OR despite (or perhaps because of) its reckless program installing bike lanes in dangerous places.  What makes it worse is that Oregon laws require cyclists to use these hazardous facilities.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been to Portland myself, so I can&#8217;t say who is right.  Only that there seems to be a difference of opinion on the matter.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: elliott</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://austinbikeblog.org/?p=794#comment-211</guid>
		<description>Thanks for all the great comments. Aaron, I&#039;m sorry I didn&#039;t get a chance to connect with you while I was there. My race and the shortness of the trip prevented me from getting to do as much as I wanted. I&#039;ll let you guys know the next time I come up as I&#039;d love to get a tour from those who bike Portland everyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the great comments. Aaron, I&#8217;m sorry I didn&#8217;t get a chance to connect with you while I was there. My race and the shortness of the trip prevented me from getting to do as much as I wanted. I&#8217;ll let you guys know the next time I come up as I&#8217;d love to get a tour from those who bike Portland everyday.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://austinbikeblog.org/?p=794#comment-206</guid>
		<description>When I see the bike rack at the airport I feel like I have finally arrived home and I know my bicycle awaits me. I appreciate living in the Portland area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I see the bike rack at the airport I feel like I have finally arrived home and I know my bicycle awaits me. I appreciate living in the Portland area.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: amsterdamize</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>amsterdamize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://austinbikeblog.org/?p=794#comment-202</guid>
		<description>Thanks, Matt, sounds terribly complicated and blurry indeed. I&#039;ll look it up further in the archives. 

Cheers, Marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Matt, sounds terribly complicated and blurry indeed. I&#8217;ll look it up further in the archives. </p>
<p>Cheers, Marc</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: marcus</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://austinbikeblog.org/?p=794#comment-200</guid>
		<description>Let me tell you, there is absolutely no comparison between Portland and Austin when it comes to cycling. Mostly, the bike culture here exists despite city policy and actions (and our surplus of road raging &quot;bubbas&quot;) and not because of it.

Bicycles are definitely in the &quot;toy/sporting good&quot; category here, and not considered a legitimate form of transportation.

Really appreciate your comments, Jonathan and Matt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me tell you, there is absolutely no comparison between Portland and Austin when it comes to cycling. Mostly, the bike culture here exists despite city policy and actions (and our surplus of road raging &#8220;bubbas&#8221;) and not because of it.</p>
<p>Bicycles are definitely in the &#8220;toy/sporting good&#8221; category here, and not considered a legitimate form of transportation.</p>
<p>Really appreciate your comments, Jonathan and Matt!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://austinbikeblog.org/?p=794#comment-191</guid>
		<description>Elliot;
I hope you&#039;re in town for awhile.  There is so much to see, that it&#039;s overwhelming.  In addition to bike parking, airport routes, and green boxes, we have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/lesterofpuppets/410475144/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bike-specific signals&lt;/a&gt;, a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/60961560@N00/213045266/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;floating bike path&lt;/a&gt;, and many other great street improvements.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60961560@N00/sets/72157594213499623/
Do get in touch with Jonathan or any of us in the bike community if you&#039;re still in town.  I&#039;m sure we could get you a grand tour of all that makes Portland great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliot;<br />
I hope you&#8217;re in town for awhile.  There is so much to see, that it&#8217;s overwhelming.  In addition to bike parking, airport routes, and green boxes, we have <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/lesterofpuppets/410475144/" rel="nofollow">bike-specific signals</a>, a <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60961560@N00/213045266/" rel="nofollow">floating bike path</a>, and many other great street improvements.<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60961560@N00/sets/72157594213499623/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/60961560@N00/sets/72157594213499623/</a><br />
Do get in touch with Jonathan or any of us in the bike community if you&#8217;re still in town.  I&#8217;m sure we could get you a grand tour of all that makes Portland great.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Matt Picio</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2008/09/18/my-initial-thoughts-on-portland-bike-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Picio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://austinbikeblog.org/?p=794#comment-190</guid>
		<description>Peter (#2) - It&#039;s *very* easy to get to the Portland airport in general, and by bike.  it&#039;s connected via a service drive directly to one of the main freeways in the city.  One of the light rail lines (MAX - Metropolitan Area eXpress) runs directly to the south end of the terminal, and connects people directly to downtown Portland (and MAX can take bikes), and there are at least 3 bike routes leading to the airport entrance.  One allows access from the scenic bike path along the Columbia River (Marine Drive), a new improvement that shaves about 2-3 miles off the biking distance when coming from Marine Drive.

The hardest thing about getting to the Portland airport (if you don&#039;t take MAX) is the distance, but even that is manageable - it&#039;s about 8 miles to get there from downtown Portland, with a 200&#039; tall ridge between you and the airport.  The grade is really gentle in most spots, but if you&#039;re used to flat rides, it can be a little strenuous the first time.

amsterdamize (#3) - There&#039;s an ongoing battle in Oregon over the definition of &quot;brake&quot; - bicycles are indeed required to have a working brake, and that definition has been used to ticket fixed-gear riders who ride without an additional wheel brake.  The problem seems to lie with the interpretation of certain officers of the Portland Police Bureau and certain Multnomah County Traffic Court judges, and the issue is ongoing.  The Oregon legislature tried to remedy the situation by rewriting the statute, but the fixie-specific language was stripped before the bill was passed, removing most of the benefit of the change.

Jonathan Maus wrote extensively about it in bikeportland.org, but I don&#039;t have time at the moement to delve through his archives to find it.

This is a great blog, BTW - it&#039;s so nice to see what other cities are doing, we all learn from each other. (I found this site from a referral by someone else in Portland&#039;s bike community)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter (#2) &#8211; It&#8217;s *very* easy to get to the Portland airport in general, and by bike.  it&#8217;s connected via a service drive directly to one of the main freeways in the city.  One of the light rail lines (MAX &#8211; Metropolitan Area eXpress) runs directly to the south end of the terminal, and connects people directly to downtown Portland (and MAX can take bikes), and there are at least 3 bike routes leading to the airport entrance.  One allows access from the scenic bike path along the Columbia River (Marine Drive), a new improvement that shaves about 2-3 miles off the biking distance when coming from Marine Drive.</p>
<p>The hardest thing about getting to the Portland airport (if you don&#8217;t take MAX) is the distance, but even that is manageable &#8211; it&#8217;s about 8 miles to get there from downtown Portland, with a 200&#8242; tall ridge between you and the airport.  The grade is really gentle in most spots, but if you&#8217;re used to flat rides, it can be a little strenuous the first time.</p>
<p>amsterdamize (#3) &#8211; There&#8217;s an ongoing battle in Oregon over the definition of &#8220;brake&#8221; &#8211; bicycles are indeed required to have a working brake, and that definition has been used to ticket fixed-gear riders who ride without an additional wheel brake.  The problem seems to lie with the interpretation of certain officers of the Portland Police Bureau and certain Multnomah County Traffic Court judges, and the issue is ongoing.  The Oregon legislature tried to remedy the situation by rewriting the statute, but the fixie-specific language was stripped before the bill was passed, removing most of the benefit of the change.</p>
<p>Jonathan Maus wrote extensively about it in bikeportland.org, but I don&#8217;t have time at the moement to delve through his archives to find it.</p>
<p>This is a great blog, BTW &#8211; it&#8217;s so nice to see what other cities are doing, we all learn from each other. (I found this site from a referral by someone else in Portland&#8217;s bike community)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

