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	<title>Comments on: City Staff on DIY Bike Lanes: Leave the painting to the professionals</title>
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		<title>By: elliott</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2009/07/07/city-staff-on-diy-bike-lanes-leave-the-painting-to-the-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-3773</link>
		<dc:creator>elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug,
My experience with local TV reporters, which is pretty extensive in the political world, is that they glob onto one, maybe two story lines if you are lucky, and run with it. We saw this with the stop sign story, to the point that they did a followup in response to criticism (including from this site.) They also do sensational lead in&#039;s to make the story more interesting and keep viewers. The painted lane story actually ends up reporting that this is a problem in L.A. not here, but that wasn&#039;t the sense you got at the beginning. It&#039;s the nature of the beast when your success is determined pretty much on ratings alone.

I do think you are nit picking on the first point. Yes, the writer was asking should we do it, but then suggesting where it should be done.  On the second, there were multiple people that chimed in on Bicycle Austin about getting ticketed (it may have been by e-mail rather than the forum. This two tiered system means not all of the thread is seen online.) I am not responsible for the adjectives KVUE chooses to use in its search for higher ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,<br />
My experience with local TV reporters, which is pretty extensive in the political world, is that they glob onto one, maybe two story lines if you are lucky, and run with it. We saw this with the stop sign story, to the point that they did a followup in response to criticism (including from this site.) They also do sensational lead in&#8217;s to make the story more interesting and keep viewers. The painted lane story actually ends up reporting that this is a problem in L.A. not here, but that wasn&#8217;t the sense you got at the beginning. It&#8217;s the nature of the beast when your success is determined pretty much on ratings alone.</p>
<p>I do think you are nit picking on the first point. Yes, the writer was asking should we do it, but then suggesting where it should be done.  On the second, there were multiple people that chimed in on Bicycle Austin about getting ticketed (it may have been by e-mail rather than the forum. This two tiered system means not all of the thread is seen online.) I am not responsible for the adjectives KVUE chooses to use in its search for higher ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote a paragraph from above --

   a poster recently suggested some guerrilla street painting to
   carve out space for cyclists on Austin streets specifically on
   parts of Parmer Lane and along the IH-35 access road

But the thing is ... no poster suggested this.  Instead, what was actually said --

   The July issue of Bicycling magazine has a fascinating article on
   DIY bike lanes. Seems a guerilla group of Los Angeles cyclists
   painted their own lane... in a city which basically has none. It
   lasted for about 100 hours before the city painted it over.
   Should we do something like that in Austin?  There&#039;s drainage
   grates that, at the very least, could be marked.  And roads like
   Parmer Lane east of I35 could be hit with an impromptu lane.

... he was asking if it should be done, not suggesting that it be done.  It&#039;s a minor nit, I know, but seemed to be enough to get KVUE to make a story on it.  After all, their story says `One local cyclist, in fact, suggested that cyclists start doing the same thing here.&#039;

I think KVUE reads your blog to look for dirt.  Not that you should stop giving it to them, but be precise about what you say, because they seem pretty willing to take things out of context and run with it without actually confirming anything.

It happened back with the `Careful when you glide through that stop sign, it may cost you over $150&#039; story too.  You said --

   The Bicycle Austin forum was active over the weekend with multiple
   reports of cyclists getting ticketed for failing to stop at stop
   signs. 

... but really, there was only *one* report of a cyclist ticketed there.  (ATXBS had one more.  Two total.)  In any event, KVUE parlayed this into --

   Austin&#039;s cycling blogs lit up the Internet this weekend with
   complaints about cyclists being targeted by Austin police and
   receiving tickets for running through stop signs. 

but that didn&#039;t really happen.  There were a few comments, but nothing was `lit up&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote a paragraph from above &#8211;</p>
<p>   a poster recently suggested some guerrilla street painting to<br />
   carve out space for cyclists on Austin streets specifically on<br />
   parts of Parmer Lane and along the IH-35 access road</p>
<p>But the thing is &#8230; no poster suggested this.  Instead, what was actually said &#8211;</p>
<p>   The July issue of Bicycling magazine has a fascinating article on<br />
   DIY bike lanes. Seems a guerilla group of Los Angeles cyclists<br />
   painted their own lane&#8230; in a city which basically has none. It<br />
   lasted for about 100 hours before the city painted it over.<br />
   Should we do something like that in Austin?  There&#8217;s drainage<br />
   grates that, at the very least, could be marked.  And roads like<br />
   Parmer Lane east of I35 could be hit with an impromptu lane.</p>
<p>&#8230; he was asking if it should be done, not suggesting that it be done.  It&#8217;s a minor nit, I know, but seemed to be enough to get KVUE to make a story on it.  After all, their story says `One local cyclist, in fact, suggested that cyclists start doing the same thing here.&#8217;</p>
<p>I think KVUE reads your blog to look for dirt.  Not that you should stop giving it to them, but be precise about what you say, because they seem pretty willing to take things out of context and run with it without actually confirming anything.</p>
<p>It happened back with the `Careful when you glide through that stop sign, it may cost you over $150&#8242; story too.  You said &#8211;</p>
<p>   The Bicycle Austin forum was active over the weekend with multiple<br />
   reports of cyclists getting ticketed for failing to stop at stop<br />
   signs. </p>
<p>&#8230; but really, there was only *one* report of a cyclist ticketed there.  (ATXBS had one more.  Two total.)  In any event, KVUE parlayed this into &#8211;</p>
<p>   Austin&#8217;s cycling blogs lit up the Internet this weekend with<br />
   complaints about cyclists being targeted by Austin police and<br />
   receiving tickets for running through stop signs. </p>
<p>but that didn&#8217;t really happen.  There were a few comments, but nothing was `lit up&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: elliott</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2009/07/07/city-staff-on-diy-bike-lanes-leave-the-painting-to-the-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-3771</link>
		<dc:creator>elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, this is pretty much a non-issue right now other than some forum discussions. Still, maybe picking on the cyclists is good for ratings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this is pretty much a non-issue right now other than some forum discussions. Still, maybe picking on the cyclists is good for ratings?</p>
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		<title>By: JasonATXBS</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2009/07/07/city-staff-on-diy-bike-lanes-leave-the-painting-to-the-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-3768</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonATXBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have y&#039;all seen KVUE&#039;s smear piece based on this discussion?

http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/070809kvuebike-bkm.2070f93e.html

It&#039;s pretty excellent, they even mistake some old route markers for a marathon/running event (I think it was the turkey trot) that happened up in my neighborhood for &quot;rogue bike lanes&quot;. Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have y&#8217;all seen KVUE&#8217;s smear piece based on this discussion?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/070809kvuebike-bkm.2070f93e.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/070809kvuebike-bkm.2070f93e.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty excellent, they even mistake some old route markers for a marathon/running event (I think it was the turkey trot) that happened up in my neighborhood for &#8220;rogue bike lanes&#8221;. Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: DIY bike activism in action &#171; BikingInLA</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2009/07/07/city-staff-on-diy-bike-lanes-leave-the-painting-to-the-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-3759</link>
		<dc:creator>DIY bike activism in action &#171; BikingInLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Texas, cyclists have been cautioned about taking the creation of bike lanes into their own hands, in emulation of L.A.’s own Department of DIY. As the writer put it: The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Streetsblog New York City &#187; Today&#8217;s Headlines</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2009/07/07/city-staff-on-diy-bike-lanes-leave-the-painting-to-the-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-3752</link>
		<dc:creator>Streetsblog New York City &#187; Today&#8217;s Headlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bike Lanes: Some Cities Need &#039;em, Others Don&#039;t (A2W via [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elliot -- I agree totally. If you have a response city, that&#039;s a relationship that you don&#039;t want to screw up. Now, if they were stonewalling... well, that&#039;s another story.  And sorry about your lunkhead governor. That&#039;s gotta sting for the bike community!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliot &#8212; I agree totally. If you have a response city, that&#8217;s a relationship that you don&#8217;t want to screw up. Now, if they were stonewalling&#8230; well, that&#8217;s another story.  And sorry about your lunkhead governor. That&#8217;s gotta sting for the bike community!</p>
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