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	<title>Comments on: City staff to cyclists on Bike Blvd: We don&#8217;t want to hear from you anymore</title>
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		<title>By: M1EK</title>
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		<dc:creator>M1EK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re playing the game they were asked to play. The fact of the matter is that new construction is never going to be cheaper than older rental units - it&#039;s the provision of new supply that drives down the price of the old supply (or at least slows its rise in price). The developers won&#039;t admit this because they&#039;ll get hammered by the ANC guys if they do, but this is fundamental economics of rental property.

And for 30 years now, the ANC has stopped 90% of supply of apartment units in the central city from being built - then, they blame the 10% that went through for not slowing the rise in prices enough. Chutzpah that relatively few ever call them on, unfortunately.

I&#039;m going against my own self-interest here, BTW; I own older rental property in the same neighborhood Laura Morrison&#039;s mansion resides. My rents have gone way up in the last decade partly because of the policies she pushed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re playing the game they were asked to play. The fact of the matter is that new construction is never going to be cheaper than older rental units &#8211; it&#8217;s the provision of new supply that drives down the price of the old supply (or at least slows its rise in price). The developers won&#8217;t admit this because they&#8217;ll get hammered by the ANC guys if they do, but this is fundamental economics of rental property.</p>
<p>And for 30 years now, the ANC has stopped 90% of supply of apartment units in the central city from being built &#8211; then, they blame the 10% that went through for not slowing the rise in prices enough. Chutzpah that relatively few ever call them on, unfortunately.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going against my own self-interest here, BTW; I own older rental property in the same neighborhood Laura Morrison&#8217;s mansion resides. My rents have gone way up in the last decade partly because of the policies she pushed.</p>
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		<title>By: elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M1EK,
I don&#039;t know all the details on this project, but I do know this: I love density and want more of it. At the same time, we&#039;ve been promised affordability with density from many more than one developer in this town who then builds high rise towers with luxury priced units. I don&#039;t blame the developers. I blame our crappy density bonus program. I would say based on my experience with near 2 decades in this town, if a developer talks about density and affordability in the same breath, I&#039;m pretty skeptical. I don&#039;t hold it against our Councilmembers to be equally skeptical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M1EK,<br />
I don&#8217;t know all the details on this project, but I do know this: I love density and want more of it. At the same time, we&#8217;ve been promised affordability with density from many more than one developer in this town who then builds high rise towers with luxury priced units. I don&#8217;t blame the developers. I blame our crappy density bonus program. I would say based on my experience with near 2 decades in this town, if a developer talks about density and affordability in the same breath, I&#8217;m pretty skeptical. I don&#8217;t hold it against our Councilmembers to be equally skeptical.</p>
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		<title>By: M1EK</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2010/06/07/city-staff-to-cyclists-on-bike-blvd-we-dont-want-to-hear-from-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8298</link>
		<dc:creator>M1EK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elliott, I was referring to your comment that I was just mad about things she did when she held a completely different job. However, downtown density is the cyclists&#039; best friend; note that in this particular case, downtown residents were strongly in favor of a real bike boulevard, while the old-school drive-everywhere suburbanites running those businesses on Nueces were the most obvious opponents.

Her duplicity on this issue is shown by the fact that she does not care at all about affordable housing - because increased density is the best way to provide that, and she has opposed density everywhere and anywhere since long before taking office; whether said new construction was for the rich or merely middle-class; whether said buildings would be on transit corridors or not; whether those apartments/condos would be in high-rises or low-rises. She&#039;s using affordable housing as a wedge issue to stop this high-rise because, quite simply, she doesn&#039;t want the building at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliott, I was referring to your comment that I was just mad about things she did when she held a completely different job. However, downtown density is the cyclists&#8217; best friend; note that in this particular case, downtown residents were strongly in favor of a real bike boulevard, while the old-school drive-everywhere suburbanites running those businesses on Nueces were the most obvious opponents.</p>
<p>Her duplicity on this issue is shown by the fact that she does not care at all about affordable housing &#8211; because increased density is the best way to provide that, and she has opposed density everywhere and anywhere since long before taking office; whether said new construction was for the rich or merely middle-class; whether said buildings would be on transit corridors or not; whether those apartments/condos would be in high-rises or low-rises. She&#8217;s using affordable housing as a wedge issue to stop this high-rise because, quite simply, she doesn&#8217;t want the building at all.</p>
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		<title>By: elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M1EK,
I fail to see how a vote on a high-rise has anything to do with Laura&#039;s continued support of bicycle infrastructure. I understand that you may be on the opposite side of that particular issue, but I don&#039;t see how that shows duplicity. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn&#039;t mean you get to call them a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M1EK,<br />
I fail to see how a vote on a high-rise has anything to do with Laura&#8217;s continued support of bicycle infrastructure. I understand that you may be on the opposite side of that particular issue, but I don&#8217;t see how that shows duplicity. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn&#8217;t mean you get to call them a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: M1EK</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2010/06/07/city-staff-to-cyclists-on-bike-blvd-we-dont-want-to-hear-from-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8296</link>
		<dc:creator>M1EK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elliott, your trust is misplaced - and the grudges aren&#039;t all that old - she&#039;s currently opposing a desperately needed high-rise on W 6th on the purported grounds of affordable housing (really because she doesn&#039;t want to see it from the window of her mansion in OWANA).

She&#039;s fooled a hell of a lot of people; so you&#039;re not in bad company or anything; but I hate to see smart people get snookered like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliott, your trust is misplaced &#8211; and the grudges aren&#8217;t all that old &#8211; she&#8217;s currently opposing a desperately needed high-rise on W 6th on the purported grounds of affordable housing (really because she doesn&#8217;t want to see it from the window of her mansion in OWANA).</p>
<p>She&#8217;s fooled a hell of a lot of people; so you&#8217;re not in bad company or anything; but I hate to see smart people get snookered like that.</p>
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		<title>By: elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik,
Regardless of where you stand on this, don&#039;t you think the public should have input to the City Council before staff make a major change to the Master Bike Plan? Don&#039;t you think we ought to have clear time lines for decisions and avoid last minute monkeying around with hearing dates?

As for compromise, I&#039;m for it when we get something out of it that moves the ball forward. I fail to see how rolling over for a handful of loud property owners helps us the next time we want to put in great bike facilities. To me, this is less about the actual outcome then how this positions the city in future decision making. I&#039;m also concerned that the cycling community is so weak we cannot put up a defense to this kind of crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik,<br />
Regardless of where you stand on this, don&#8217;t you think the public should have input to the City Council before staff make a major change to the Master Bike Plan? Don&#8217;t you think we ought to have clear time lines for decisions and avoid last minute monkeying around with hearing dates?</p>
<p>As for compromise, I&#8217;m for it when we get something out of it that moves the ball forward. I fail to see how rolling over for a handful of loud property owners helps us the next time we want to put in great bike facilities. To me, this is less about the actual outcome then how this positions the city in future decision making. I&#8217;m also concerned that the cycling community is so weak we cannot put up a defense to this kind of crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Alonso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A sample letter:

Dear Mayor and Council Members,

The briefing from staff with the recommendation on the bicycle boulevard, has again been moved; this time from June 24th to June 10, with very short notice.

The staff recommendation seems to be an important departure from the approved Master plan, not a slight modification. It should, therefore, be discussed, debated and voted.
 
Not going through a recordable transparent process will bring serious distrust from a sizable  portion of the bicycle community towards our elected officials. 

At this point, there are more than 2000 signatures in favor of a Nueces alignment; which repeat the same position expressed in many plans voted by your body previous to the uprising of the vociferous opposition from a minuscule group of affluent austinites raging against the true transportation needs of our city.

The merits for the staff proposal on Rio Grande are many; yet the abandonment of a true bicycle boulevard, devoted to all level of cyclists is a major blow to our prospects to become a city that is serious about transportation alternatives. 

As expressed by staff at the Urban Transportation Commission, the new boulevard plan, excludes inexperienced bicyclists and children from it; this is an important setback in the aspirations of our community to create a future with people educated on sensible transportation policies and environmental options.

In that portion of the city a true bicycle boulevard is only possible on Nueces St. Come and ride both streets and you will feel the gradient differential on both arteries.

I would like to ask from you that please, move the discussion back to the previously scheduled date of June 24; that you open the floor to public input; and that you cast a vote on the plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sample letter:</p>
<p>Dear Mayor and Council Members,</p>
<p>The briefing from staff with the recommendation on the bicycle boulevard, has again been moved; this time from June 24th to June 10, with very short notice.</p>
<p>The staff recommendation seems to be an important departure from the approved Master plan, not a slight modification. It should, therefore, be discussed, debated and voted.</p>
<p>Not going through a recordable transparent process will bring serious distrust from a sizable  portion of the bicycle community towards our elected officials. </p>
<p>At this point, there are more than 2000 signatures in favor of a Nueces alignment; which repeat the same position expressed in many plans voted by your body previous to the uprising of the vociferous opposition from a minuscule group of affluent austinites raging against the true transportation needs of our city.</p>
<p>The merits for the staff proposal on Rio Grande are many; yet the abandonment of a true bicycle boulevard, devoted to all level of cyclists is a major blow to our prospects to become a city that is serious about transportation alternatives. </p>
<p>As expressed by staff at the Urban Transportation Commission, the new boulevard plan, excludes inexperienced bicyclists and children from it; this is an important setback in the aspirations of our community to create a future with people educated on sensible transportation policies and environmental options.</p>
<p>In that portion of the city a true bicycle boulevard is only possible on Nueces St. Come and ride both streets and you will feel the gradient differential on both arteries.</p>
<p>I would like to ask from you that please, move the discussion back to the previously scheduled date of June 24; that you open the floor to public input; and that you cast a vote on the plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://austinontwowheels.org/2010/06/07/city-staff-to-cyclists-on-bike-blvd-we-dont-want-to-hear-from-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8291</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compromise is a virtue polarized folks cannot ever seem to digest, and I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll rail against me for even suggesting it. We&#039;re winning either way. Get over yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compromise is a virtue polarized folks cannot ever seem to digest, and I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll rail against me for even suggesting it. We&#8217;re winning either way. Get over yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob -- which bicyclists are you referring to?  How was this damage done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob &#8212; which bicyclists are you referring to?  How was this damage done?</p>
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		<title>By: elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M1EK,
In every instance since she&#039;s been on the Council, I&#039;ve seen Laura support the cycling community and the infrastructure we want. Given this record and the fact that I&#039;ve actually talked to her about this, I&#039;ll assume she supports our community until proven otherwise instead of holding old grunges from a time when she held a completely different job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M1EK,<br />
In every instance since she&#8217;s been on the Council, I&#8217;ve seen Laura support the cycling community and the infrastructure we want. Given this record and the fact that I&#8217;ve actually talked to her about this, I&#8217;ll assume she supports our community until proven otherwise instead of holding old grunges from a time when she held a completely different job.</p>
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